Why do they do this?

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  1. JonScout

    JonScout Well-Known Member

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    I decided to change/clean air filter and maybe change the plugs. Other than having to remove spring seat (harder than stock) and the gas tank (whose brilliant idea was that to put air filter under the tank), I now find in order to replace the plugs, I have to remove air cleaner box and section of frame to get to spark plug. Again, whose brilliant idea was that? Why do they make a simple necessity into an highly involved process? More dealer labor fees?
     
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    I guess you're saying it's all a pain in the arse and you'd be right but it is all doable........Just make sure you follow the steps in the workshop manual and you'll be fine.,......Read it twice so you only do it once,......there are no shortcuts to replacing the plugs.,.......Oh,......and seeing you will have the airbox out, why not modify it so the bike breaths better,......read all about it in a thread I did a while back,......It's complete with pictures and all. I foolishly gave it a big title but if you enter PSSSST! in the search box it will come up,.....You can read it all or go to post 15 for all the info,.....
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    PS,.....If you don't have a workshop manual, PM me your email address and I will send the appropriate pages to you,......
     
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    JonScout Well-Known Member

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    Thanks...I know I can do it and my local mechanic will let me do it in the shop over the winter/spring. Just more of a pain than my Sportsters. And I had thought about the S&S, though I have a K&N now.
     
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    yeah,......I fitted a K & N ( filter only to suit the OEM air box. ) when I did the air box modification. With the air box mod and the K & N fitted it is no where near as noisy on full throttle as some of the other aftermarket air filter kits on the market. I test rode a Victory Octane 1200 with an aftermarket air intake and it was deafening on 3/4 to full throttle.
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    Hmmph! Desk Jockeys!
     
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    "Maintainability" was clearly not high on the requirements list in the design engineering department. But performance clearly was.
     
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    I think Engineers have a sick sense of humor, and they do this just to make us curse.

    4T
     
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    It's actually worked out in a Quality Attribute Workshop. You'd be surprised how unimportant things you think are important actually are when you're forced to prioritize them all.
     
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    Until this thread I didn't realize the Scout AC wasn't located on the left side like the TS models.
     
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    Scouts have air conditioning? That'd be handy.
     
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    Air cleaner.....AC.....yes
     
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    ;-)
     
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    Should rename you Hawk Eye,.....:cool::cool::cool:
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    So here is the scout factory intake air flow....


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    Yes, seemed to make it more complicated than necessary.
     
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    Mine does, but it's been blowing 95 degree air lately......
     
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    Time to huff some freon.
     
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    And it can be corrected. If any Scout owners wish to, they can have a better breathing Scout by referring to post 2 of this thread and doing a search, as I mentioned, Enter PSSSST in the search box and tick 'Search title only' and you'll see what I did to achieve a better and more direct airflow for the Scout WITHOUT spending a whole lot of money.
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