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  1. thumper

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    I’ve looked in my service manual and no joy.

    Does anyone know where the procedure for doing an R & R on the 111 gear position sensor can be found? I found how to test it but nothing on removing or installing.
     
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    Mine is whacked out. U might have to replace it. There is a a way to get to it without removing the exhaust. I will try to get info.
     
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    Thanks Bobby. I know where it is and how to get to it. I know it doesn’t have to be replaced but does need to be serviced (cleaned) and because I have true duals, I need to pull the exhaust. What I don’t know is what to inspect when it is removed. By that I mean both in the recess it fits in and on the sensor itself along with the springs and pins it uses and the torque spec.
     
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    From what I’ve been told it needs to be replaced but I will ask the tech in ft lauderdale. He will have an answer. Will contact him on Tuesday.
     
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    I am currently on my third one. A few months ago, Polaris said it needs to be removed and cleaned. I’ve heard every 5,000 and heard every 10,000 miles. With a stock header, it’s billed as a two hour job, based on what I was told by the service writer at Heritage Indian.
     
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    As an aside, I saw a blurb a couple days ago, I think it was in ADV Rider, that some guy is suing BMW over their defective gear position sensors. Hardly worthy of a law suit in my opinion.
     
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    Looks like nobody knows I guess.
     
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    Electronics, if nothing else this would be the best thing the vehicle industry ever did for sales of all motor vehicles,where do you get electronic parts in 8-10yrs, So you keep selling and replacing every 3-4 yrs bring back carbs and No 8 wire. Munroe did it years ago, mind you he basically poured fuel straight down it's neck
     
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    That is why my next bike will be an EVO! I’m looking for one already but it’s tough finding one that’s not fuel injected. I won’t buy it unless I can lay hands and eyeballs on it and won’t travel more than a couple hours to see one so it may take awhile but I’m not spending what riding time I’ve got left worrying about electronics or computers in my motorcycle.
     
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    For goodness sake,.....get it replaced under warranty and go home,.....then get a job and earn your money the same as the rest of us,.........Nobody owes you a living,.....you owe that to yourself,.........
     
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    Golf
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    I looked the Service Manual over well and have to agree has squat for info on them other than test it .. So add me to the I don't know list, but never had to do a thing to my Gear Indicator on my Chieftain Dark Horse for almost 25,000 Miles and on my 2012 Victory was still working perfect after 4 1/2 Years and 80,000 Miles assuming they are similar which many things are on Indian and Victory .. While the Gear indicator is nice to Have, but if familiar with your Ride is easy enough figure out what gear you are in as long as know the RPM's and MPH Ratio which is close to adding a 0 to each Gear at 2,000 RPM.. 10 MPH-1st 20 MPH-2nd etc..
     
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    I can think of two variations of that Thumper and I'm wondering which one you mean?:p

    And for clarification my post was in answer to @IronButt70 's post 7,......
     
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    The problem Jay is that from what I’ve been told, once it gets gummed up to the point of not working at all, you won’t be able to start the bike regardless of what you do. Apparently, if not corrected, eventually it will not show anything in regarding what gear the bike is in and you’re dead in the water. Like you, I don’t need anything to tell me what gear I’m in.

    A buddy of mine has a Vic Vision and his went just a couple months ago and the bike just quit going down the road because it thought it was in reverse.
     
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    No worries.
     
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    LMAO.
     
    #17 IronButt70, Aug 15, 2019 at 9:01 AM
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    If nothing else, this has been a fun read. Always something going on down in the trailerhood :D I wish I had the answer, but I’ve fortunately not had that problem.
     
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    Please explain to us how your so called response to me had anything to do with the BMW lawsuit link I posted? Enquirering minds what to know.
     
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    Simply this IronButt,........It seems to me to be someone's attempt at a law suit in order to cream money from a company. Yes, the part may be faulty and require fixing but there are channels for that being the warranty system,........If it's out of warranty just buy the parts and fit or have someone else do that for you,......As for the job bit?,......self explanatory I think,.....
    Alpal
     
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