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    Vote To Federally Legalize Marijuana Planned In Congress
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    I cover the politics and policy of cannabis here and at Marijuana Moment.

    A key congressional committee plans to hold a historic vote on a bill to end the federal prohibition of marijuana next week, two sources with knowledge of the soon-to-be-announced action said.

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    The legislation, sponsored by House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-NY), would remove cannabis from the Controlled Substances Act (CSA) and set aside funding to begin repairing the damage of the war on drugs, which has been disproportionately waged against communities of color.

    Those programs—such as job training and legal aid for people impacted by prohibition enforcement, loans for small cannabis businesses owned and controlled by socially and economically disadvantaged individuals and efforts to minimize barriers to licensing and employment in the legal industry—would be paid for with a new federal five percent tax on marijuana sales instituted under the bill, and some of them would be administered by a new Cannabis Justice Office in the Department of Justice.


    The proposal, the Marijuana Opportunity Reinvestment and Expungement (MORE) Act, would also provide for resentencing and expungement of records for people previously convicted of cannabis offenses and would shield immigrants from being denied citizenship status over marijuana.

    It currently has 55 cosponsors, all but one of whom are Democrats.

    A Senate companion is being led by Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA), a 2020 presidential candidate, though it has not yet been scheduled for action in the GOP-controlled chamber.

    Wednesday’s planned Judiciary Committee vote on the far-reaching cannabis reform legislation—which hasn’t yet been officially listed but is expected to be announced on Monday—comes about two months after the full House overwhelmingly approved a bipartisan bill to increase marijuana businesses’ access to banks.

    Politico reported on Saturday that Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA), who is not a member of the panel, vaguely mentioned upcoming committee consideration while speaking at a conference in Southern California.

    The congresswoman reportedly didn’t clarify that the legislation would be formally “marked up,” or voted on, a detail that sources shared with Marijuana Moment in recent days. A Judiciary Committee spokesperson hasn’t responded to several inquiries about the pending vote.

    The planned action on the bill, which would also block federal agencies from denying public benefits or security clearances over marijuana use, follows a hearing a Judiciary subcommittee held in July that examined the connection between marijuana legalization and racial justice.

    The markup will provide the opportunity for lawmakers on both sides of the aisle to file amendments to the bill, and could shed further light on an emerging divide between cannabis reform supporters who feel it is essential to address past drug war harms and equity in the cannabis industry immediately and those who believe it makes more sense to advance more limited, states’ rights-focused legislation that could stand a better chance of advancing through the Senate and to President Trump’s desk.

    Those tensions surfaced both during the Judiciary hearing this summer as well as in the lead up to the House floor vote on the cannabis banking legislation. Some pro-legalization groups went so far as to ask leadership to delay the scheduled vote on the financial services bill because they took issue with what is seen as an industry-focused proposal moving ahead of one containing restorative justice provisions such as the MORE Act.

    In response to those concerns, top Democrats such as Nadler and House Minority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) pledged that while they were moving ahead with the banking vote, they also saw the importance of following up by advancing more comprehensive cannabis legislation.

    Advancing the MORE Act or a similar descheduling proposal through committee and onto the House floor would make good on that pledge.

    It’s less certain how the Senate would react to House passage of a far-reaching bill to end federal marijuana prohibition. Some advocates believe that only a more modest proposal to exempt state-approved cannabis activity from federal prohibition stands a chance in the Republican-controlled body.

    That bill, the Strengthening the Tenth Amendment Through Entrusting States (STATES) Act, would not formally deschedule marijuana under the CSA and doesn’t include measures aimed at ensuring equity in the legal industry for communities most harmed by the drug war.

    President Trump has voiced support for the less far-reaching bill, which is led by Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) and Cory Gardner (R-CO).
     
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    Interesting. Although I think it is an overall good idea, I doubt it will actually happen.
     
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    Guys like us would benefit SIGNIFICANTLY from an end to prohibition. Not to mention the investment opportunities that would suddenly shed some risk with access to the federal banking system.
     
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    I couldn’t agree more. That said, I will be surprised if it passes.
     
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    The Conservative in me says
    No

    The Libertarian in me says
    Yes

    Mixed feelings based on what I've witnessed both Pro and Con.

    I think the Feds smell some MUCH needed tax revenue.
     
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    If you give the Fed more revenue, it will prioritize and spend more of your money.
     
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    Yes.....God forbid they pay down the National debt and "act their wage" as in stop borrowing.
     
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    I agree with the third paragraph from the bottom of the article. If they want to make this shit legal, make it legal. Don't create another agency or tie some sort of reparations for "drug wars" to it.
    I do find it ironic that the fed has practically run the cigarette industry out of business but thinks that pot is okay.
    Question: assuming it becomes legal but subject to certain controls such as alcohol. Is there a way to test for recent use?
     
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    Definitely. They inspect your pantry for snacks.
     
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    Yes there are several tests or methods. There are variables but THC can be detected in saliva for about 24 hours, blood 2-4 hours, urine 3-30 days, hair up to 90 days.
     
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    Thanks, Rodd. Sounds like that's not such an issue. Coming from the airline industry, if we legalize it, I wonder what the reaction will be with the FAA. My guess would be that they would treat it similar to alcohol (8 hours bottle to throttle and BAC of .04) but who knows.
     
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    One problem . . . . there is, to my knowledge, no established Blood Level for THC nor anyway way to test for it on the side of the road or, I guess, in the cockpit.

    Eventually, it will be legalized across the country, as much I'd prefer it not be. But also, eventually, we'll see, more and more, the negative effects of continued/excessive use.


    Oh, and as we wind down the "War on Drugs" can we, finally, back off the equally wasteful, harmful, and ineffective War on Poverty ? ? ?





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    Direct(or) Deposit is currently crushing poverty, in my personal war of the same name. If it wasn't for General Child Support and Admiral Motorcycles it wouldn't stand a fucking chance.
     
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    Damn I like reading threads like this,.......Gives a new angle to view America from I feel,......
     
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    Oh the cleaning crew: after long haul flight ash all over the cockpit floor and pizza boxes everywhere.
     
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    Will always be pro's and cons on any issue like this .. Personally I'd like to see it pass but also depends on how it's done without a bunch of Big Brother BS ..
     
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    After extensive research while in in service for my country, I would say onl ex-military should be allowed to partake in any study to determine the effects this dangerous drug could have on society. Just saying. Shit, what were we talking about ??????
     
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    talking about taking a trip but never leaving the farm:cool::p:D,......You know what they say Rocko,......and you're about the right age,.......If you could remember the sixty's??,.....you weren't there:eek::confused:o_O:oops:,.........I remember the fifty's,......flat chested schoolgirls in singlets,......then I remember seeing through the bottom of a brown bottle for quite some time then it was the seventy's,........you the same Bud?:);):cool:,.......hands up anyone with similar nightmares!!:cool::p:D,.....would I live it again?,......in a heartbeat,......
    Alpal
     
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    Americans are pretty diverse.
    Hold my beer....
     
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    Everytime I told somebody to hold my beer I ended up in the hospital.....:D
     
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