FDA Asks Court to Delay Full Release of Documents on Pfizer COVID Biologic for 55 Years

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  1. IronButt70

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    55 years? Sure sounds like got something to hide to me ..
     
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    #4 IROQUOIS, Nov 23, 2021
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    I do. Remember, "the curve" was infection/transmission rates and the concept was designed to buy time for the experimental vaccines to reach a point that emergency use could be authorized for a segment of the population.
    Learning is happening. Policies are shifting to match. I wager very few people are "anti-vaxers". Most [IMO] tend to accept the results of long-term analysis derived from controlled data. The lack of such, coupled with a strongly American aversion to mandates has sped up an erosion of trust.

    Bottom Line: Occam's Razor is real and complex conspiracies are rare.
     
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    Yes! Dr Fauci is just like the girlfriend that wants to date other guys but still loves you. Well 21 months later this very patient dude (USA) has lost interest in her (Fauci).
    He's his worst enemy....all over the board trying to keep this relationship going.

    Personal issue with my Dr.

    I got the 2X jab. Still got Covid, basically a sinus infection equivalent. I ask him earlier this month do I need a booster?
    He said no at this point. Between the jab and natural immunity your good. If that changes I'll contact you. FYI...he had me wait for getting the jab as he read up on it researching it back in 2020. I got it this year and I'm good.
     
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    It’s all good until it’s bad….. screw Dr. Fauci. Can’t believe this idiot still has a job and anyone would trust him…. About as reliable as Dr. Seuss
     
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    Took a quick look at the article you shared, and copied a small bit below.
    The red part has me scratching my head. How can there be that many pages??

    Cheese and rice....

    "Justice Department lawyers representing the FDA note in court papers that the plaintiffs are seeking a huge amount of vaccine-related material – about 329,000 pages."
     
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    Because 328,000 pages are BS trying to obfuscate the truth.
     
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    They never seem to require much time to rush through bills with thousands of pages.
     
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    Consider all of the empirical research that bounded the original virus classification and all of the patient diagnoses reviewed as part of acceptance into trials.

    Consider the peer reviews of the papers proposing the mRNA delivery use case for Novel Corona Virus, later designated COVID-19.

    Consider all of the experiment configurations postulated, test plans, data management plans, analysis plans, peer reviews and associated meeting minutes documenting the reviews of the reviews and THEN we can start talking about establishing controlled environments that have been verified, validated, & accredited so there's a recognized environment to actually do this kind of science in.

    You starting to see it now?

    Just to create an admittedly straw man parable, 72 hours of testing one of my distributed systems can yield a full TERABYTE of data. That averages ~75million pages of data.

    Data reduction techniques and stereotyping is critical. But if you're going to review the work, you need ALL the RAW data.
     
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    Dr. Suess rocks my socks....reliably.
     
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