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Discussion in 'Indian Scout' started by se7en10, Nov 6, 2016.
Spotted this on Facebook, not sure if I like the look.
Well, Se7en , on that we agree, I'm not so keen on it either. The question kept running through my mind, Why?,......
I can see the rationale for the fairing, but think that the proportions upset the overall balance of the Scout. They did a good enough job, but I think that style of fairing just belongs on a bigger bike.
Not my Cup of Tea but for those wanting that kind of option go for it ..
I am not a fan of the bat-wing on an Indian. Scout or otherwise........Matter of fact I think the bat-wing design is a bit dated all together and is ready for a styling makeover.
The benefits of the "out dated" fairing far out weigh any negatives. I even put one on a little Honda 185 Twinstar way back there. Was told by nearly everyone I was making a mistake. But not that it needed it the fuel mileage skyrocketed. And drafting 18 wheelers to gain highway speed became a real thrill. The only thing that Scout needs now is a headlight to fill the hole up front. I considered going with a Scout myself to downsize but make it a full touring model. Still haven't given that idea completely up.
Just my opinion and totally based on appearance..... Nothing wrong with it other than it has looked the same [HD style bat-wing] for years and I think it could use some updating. Fairings are definitely a plus in my book.
Well Polaris went over board with the fairing on the Vision. I think they struck a homerun with the Chieftain/Roadmaster. But yeah, Harley could use an update. But that's been the case for sometime now.
Just my 2 cents, faring needs to be a little smaller and have more rounded lines. Think a Chieftain fairing about 3/4 or 2/3 of normal size. Mini bagger....
Don't WE both have bat wings?
Nope. We have locomotives.
Technically, maybe in concept, but not really.
The Indian Fairing could be considered a variation of the "Wixom" fairing as is the Harley Davidson "Batwing" design. As with the Harley Davidson Batwing, the Indian fairing is fork mounted but with its own distinctive "Streamliner" stying.
The following excerpt was taken from, "An Inside Look at the New INDIAN™: Styling Influences"
chieftain inspiration | Indian Motorcycle
“It reminded us of the streamliner trains of the time, the Super Chief,” Gray said. “The trains of those times looked very powerful going down the track.”
Which was what he wanted for the new bagger’s fairing. “We wanted it to look powerful coming down the road, wanted lots of light so a rider can see and be seen, and wanted an aerodynamic shell,” Gray said.
Brew realized that, indeed, the trains he saw growing up had inspired him. “When Gary and those guys started talking about it feeling like a train, I almost wished that had been our original explanation, because if you look at the Super Chief, it absolutely fits.”
Brew said the ID team wanted the fairing styling to be distinctive, but they also wanted it to complement rather than overpower the bike’s other signature bodywork.
“The bike is leading with a dramatic fender with the War Bonnet on it. As soon as that fender comes around the corner, you can identify that bike as an Indian Motorcycle,” Brew said. “That fairing has got to fit with that same aesthetic.
The following was taken from the website "The designs and Inventions of Craig Vetter"
Craig's brief history of motorcycles
Fairings were around long before Vetter:
I did not invent the motorcycle fairing. Three brands were known to us in the 60s. The English "Avon" and "Butler" brands were "dolphin-style", frame-mounted fairings. They were neat looking but not suitable to the American riding style of sitting upright with high, wide handlebars. The American brand best known was Wixom made by Dean and Stan Wixom.
Wixom fairings were handlebar-mounted and were made for the American riding stance and were popular on BMWs. The current Harley "Batwing" fairing is a derivative.
The following is an excerpt from "Harley Electra Glide" from the website hogridesinfo.com
ELECTRA GLIDE HARLEY DAVIDSON
First introduced in 1965, the Harley Davidson Electra Glide was powered by the Panhead engine. The Electra Glide was the first of all Harley Davidson motorcycles to be fitted with an electric starter, meaning no more kick-start lever problems. The increased weight may have slightly hampered the performance of the Harley Davidson Electra Glide however the following year in 1966 the engine was redesigned featuring Sportster style cylinder heads, providing an additional 10% power. This new engine was named ‘Shovelhead’ and saw the end of the Panhead engine. In 1969 a fork mounted fairing was made available on the Harley Davidson Electra Glide and became known as the ‘Batwing’ fairing. Throughout the following year little changed apart from the generator being replaced by an alternator.
So the fairing below is one of many aftermarket distinctive "Batwing" styles made for various model motorcycles both of domestic and import origins. The Batwing moniker came from the shape of the Harley fairing.
Uhm...it's a bat wing...sorry @Blueshwk LOL. If the Scout had a taller sixth gear and was outfitted correctly, I think it would make a great minny touring bike. (Although, certainly many use it as one as it is.) - JJ
As a History buff, I thoroughly enjoyed that. As an engineer, my take away is that we have a bat wing fairing styled as an art deco-influenced locomotive.
The big cruiser fairing I always liked was the HD FXRT/P. Which I hear HD is preparing to reboot.
My brother has an FXRT and loves it.....JJ
I would be all over that if it existed!
Oh don't tease like that. I've always wanted a FXRT. With the M8 in one they'd have winner. The EVO was a good match as well though.
Not my cuppa. I've owned one faired bike in my life. That was enough to know I don't really care for 'em all that much. I've ridden a few other faired bikes - Harley, Yamaha/Star, even an Indian. They did nothing to change my opinion of 'em.