2021 Indian springfield and Vintage

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  1. Rankdog

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    I was wondering if there was any difference between the 2021 Vintage and the Springfield. Other than the obvious leather bags.
     
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    I believe they went to the same frame about a year ago. The vintage used to have a little more rake but Now it's as the Springfield. I guess spokes as opposed to aluminum mags and a different handlebar
     
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    Vintage, Springfield, Cheiftain, Roadmaster etc. are all same bikes.

    Vintage has soft leather bags.
    Springfield adds lockable hard bags.
    Cheiftain adds fairing.
    Roadmaster adds the trunk.

    Springfield DH, Cheiftain and Roadmaster also have the bigger 116 engine. Springfield regular is 111, as are all Vintage variations.
     
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    Go to Indianmotorcycles.com and "compare" the two models. You will see exactly the differences. There are slight differences in height and length as well as others like front tire size, saddlebags, etc. But the biggest might be the 2021 Springfield DH is the TS116 while the Vintage DH is the TS 111. But again, do yourself a favor and go to the website. Very easy.
     
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    Not anymore. They both use the same frame now.
     
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    will Bronze Member
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    Vintage is by far superior, don’t believe me just ask me!!!!

    The green vintage is slower than the red vintage because of the color red being faster, but green is sexier, so it worked out.

    The green and cream attracted the female persuasion so heavily when going down the road that it was causing to many accidents and State Farm appealed to Indian to stop making that color for a while. Indian made twice as many the following year!

    While parked the green and cream pulls in so many females to it you’d swear it was painted in diamonds!

    ok, I’ll stop. The Springfield and red motorcycle guys are getting envious.....
     
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    There are still differences even though they have the same frame. Again, I would suggest you go to the company website and do a compare of the models.

    Below is a picture of the comparison of a 2021 Vintage DH (left) and the 2021 Springfield DH (right). Notice the difference in Overall Height and Overall Length. Very slight difference in weight too, but probably the front tires as they are 17's on the Vintage and 19's on the SFDH

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    Pretty sure his point was that prior to 2020 the SF and the Vintage had different rakes, trails, and frames. The switch to the same frame generally removed the differences in riding dynamics. They're parts bin motorcycles (differentiated only by standard OEM catalog parts) now.

    He's right, they're the "same" bike now.
     
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    He didn't just ask about only the frame. His original post was...

    "I was wondering if there was any difference between the 2021 Vintage and the Springfield. Other than the obvious leather bags."

    The answer is YES, there are differences. Not sure why everyone is being so sensitive about the fact there are differences, all be them minor. Yes there are a lot of similarities, including frame, but again that wasn't his question. It's not my opinion that there are differences, there ARE differences.

    And let me add one more difference... the ground clearance is ever so slightly higher on the Vintage. Enough to notice? Probably not, but it is different.
     
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    Probably a sense of the room you don't have yet. We tend not to be quibblesome or pedantic around here.

    You may as well mention the differences in color palate to reinforce your point.

    Take a deep breath and relax.
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    A reminder of why I left the other forum
     
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    What @Baldhead_J said and punctuated by @Bobby Jesus .

    I've got ample seat time on both bikes (16' Vintage & 19' SFDH) With the rake/trail, wheelbase and rear tire now all being the same, there will be very very little ride-feel difference in the bikes. The SFDH will fall into the turns a bit easier with the thinner front tire.

    The Vintage needs to be pointed/deliberately steered into turns. I'm talking aggressive mountain roads, not spinning through town and turning at an intersection.

    The SPDH has the upgraded rear suspension, which is lovely. Not sure about the new Vintage...?
     
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    I'm very relaxed, just trying to be helpful to the OP. Not trying to be quibblesome or pedantic (whatever that means... LOL), and I'm sure you are not trying to be that way either, right. Although your comment of "differences in color palette to reinforce your point" does seem to be a little inflammatory.

    I agree, take a deep breath and relax.
     
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    Vintage and Springfield are identical now.

    The website in the comparison area isn't totally accurate.

    I also measured them when I was debating between the two.

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    Thanks everybody. I did compare there is very little difference.
     
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    Sadly, that table is inaccurate and conflicts what indian puts out in the spec area, as well as my own measurements when i was comparing the two :(.
     
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    Lol.
    The simple answer to the op is:
    No.


    Lots of words.....
     
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